DEUS EX WHY CONTAIN IT SERIES

Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.27.111.130 ( talk) 17:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC) I thought the Superman example was good.

DEUS EX WHY CONTAIN IT SERIES

Chris Croy ( talk) 02:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC) The classic Stephen King example is in the Dark Tower series where he, as the author of the book, places medicine in a medicine cabinet for a character as a penance. This would be a prime example: How would this article be better by mentioning 'Steven King uses it a lot'? Would anyone familiar with the concept look at the article and say to themselves, 'The bastards! They forgot about King!'? But I agree: If someone would add a single, solid, well-known modern use in a paragraph of prose, that would be great. Should his penchant for DEM endings be mentioned? - 96.52.132.224 ( talk) 22:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC) No, but we do need one clear example to demonstrate the subject.- Loodog ( talk) 00:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC) The problem is that if we have ANY sort of 'list' of examples, well-meaning fans will endlessly add examples of DEM that don't improve the article. Lestrade ( talk) 20:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)Lestrade Stephen King Try it yourself and see if it is easy for anyone to do. It takes artistic skill and ability to write a plot that can be resolved without introducing extraneous elements. Writers who use a deus ex machina lack skill. It's just a lazy way to do things that's less satisfying to the audience: presenting them with a puzzle and when they can't figure it out, say 'Oh, by the way, I changed the rules'.- Loodog ( talk) 20:59, (UTC) anyone else can replace if suitable evidence can be found that all writers who use a Deus Ex Machina are horrible.- SpartaGeek23 ( talk) 20:49, (UTC) It's not that the writers who use it are bad or lack skill, necessarily. Please try to repair with adequite sources.- SpartaGeek23 ( talk) 19:40, (UTC) I have edited out the 'bad writer' reference and the source. '.The term is a negative one, and it often implies a lack of skill on the part of the writer.' I believe the source didn't give enough explaination about why the use of a DEM showed the writer has 'no skill'. Chris Croy ( talk) 17:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC) Negative Connotation of DEM I left the opera example in place because it illustrated another use of 'deus ex machina' that was not otherwise explained. They were simply arbitrarily-chosen examples from modern fiction. I cleansed most of the examples because none of them improved the article. contribs) 17:40, 6 July 2011 (UTC) Cleansing.Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLastBrainLeft ( talk The specifics are best left to the appropriate BSG page. It's a matter of opinion and there's strong dissent to it. The bit about Battlestar Galactica strikes me as original research-or something in that kind-where are the references to support such 'arguing'? - Anzuhan ( talk) 07:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC) I concur that Battlestar Galactica should be removed as an example of the subject. The last two paragraphs are completely useless, in my opinion. I added an 'Examples' header, as I found myself reading examples when I expected criticism, ruining the endings of a couple of things I haven't seen / read.

60 Oliver - reference to DEM might be incorrect.58 Tolkien, eucatastrophe, cleanup and removal.55 Please, the translation is wrong and in fact much simpler.51 Asimov and ironic use of deus ex machina.37 The chapter on Piano in the Bushes does not end in a complete sentence.35 Incorrect Attribution of the Phrase to Horace.20 If you think it is Deus ex machina it is.14 Do NOT create DigitalPh33r links or mentions here.13 Getting rid of non-ironic examples was a very, very bad idea.9 The Single Greatest Example Ever Contrived by Modern Man.6 Negative Connotation of DEM, An Argument Against.

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